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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Steven Sesselmann » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:24 am

Bob,

Other than possibly a piece of paper to frame and hang on the wall, patenting a fusion idea is a waste of money. You may as well take $10,000 and donate it to your favourite law firm. The whole patent system has become a tool for the big multi national companies, and doesn't serve inventors the way it was designed to. Been there done that, my ideas free :)

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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Richard Hull » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:19 pm

Bob,

All the best with the patent process.

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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Bob Reite » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:45 am

As a "Micro Entity" it only cost me $70 to file a provisional patent. It doesn't require the same rigor as a normal utility patent, so I dispensed with the lawyer and did it myself on-line. If I messed up or if this "split supply" method turns out to be another fusion "dry hole" I'm only out $70.
The more reactive the materials, the more spectacular the failures.
The testing isn't over until the prototype is destroyed.

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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Steven Sesselmann » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:55 am

Bob,

Yes the provisional buys you around 12-18 months, which in the world of fusion research is not very much. Once it goes to a a full patent application it starts costing serious money, although for one country it is not too bad.

My negativity against the patent system stems from my naive thinking, I initially thought a patent would prevent others from copying my idea :)

...but that's not how it works in practice, if the idea actually works every man and his dog is going to copy it and it's up to you to run around and sue them. Not my preferred way of making money, that's for sure.

Best of luck with your idea though, hope it works..

Frank Sanns used two power supplies in his patent, and to a certain extent I am doing the same with my Zener diode.

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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Bob Reite » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:42 am

I duplicated Frank Sanns system at one point. I found that you did not need a split supply to make it work. I just had the two pointed electrodes at the same potential and it worked. But I could not find a statistically different improvement over a standard Farnsworth fusor operating at the same voltage.
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Re: Fusion Results Data Collection

Post by Steven Sesselmann » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:33 am

Bob,

We should probably continue this discussion in a more appropriate forum.

The objective of a second electrode is to extract the electrons so they don't hit the shell. You see those electrons extracted at -60 KeV still contain useful energy, so why waste them on heating the shell?

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