Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by DavidHansen » Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:07 am

The crude experiment I was referring to was the train car reactor core. I think Farnsworth's devices are beautifully elegant, not crude. The solid palladium (or palladium-plated) target is a good idea. Or, perhaps a spherical palladium screen - recirculation of ions could still occur, so the bombardment would be effectivly greater than if it was a solid sphere.

I still wish to know which of Farnsworth's machines was involved in this spectacular runaway.

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Brian McDermott » Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:44 am

I think it was the Mark 2 prime, which is the one seen in all the "warp core" images.

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Richard Hull » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:50 pm

The mark II prime was Gene Meeks machine and was a T + D machine. It never ran away. The runaway machine was not identified to me though I have surmised that it was the mark II operated by three people present. George Bain, (engineering head), Fred Haak, (Systems Engineer) and Jim Fisher, (technician).

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Adam Szendrey » Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:04 am

Richard,

Is it known what material did they use for the cathode in that runaway device? Was it tungsten?

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Richard Hull » Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:38 pm

The grids used by the Farnsworth teams were all stainless steel.

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Adam Szendrey » Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:54 pm

There are at least two facts againts the cold fusion runaway idea.
One is that in "conventional" CF cells there is no neutron count increase (if there is any). But in case of a runaway there is a massive neutron blast.
Second is that i've never heard of CF experiments using stainless steel.
Any ideas?

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Richard Hull » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:18 pm

I think there are two different runaways here and we are doing an apple and oranges comparison here. CF runaway for the most part appears to be totally aneutronic. Fusor runaway appears to be good old hot fusion doing something weird.

I realize that some here wish to try and boost or insure some sort of runaway by trying CF related materials in a fusor grid. This is laudable, but linking the two forms is out of line just for the moment. CF is found to be a surface effect in a much kinder, gentler environment. Nothing in the fusor is kind or gentle. Still, all this is worth a shot especially to those looking to push the envelope or grab at straws depending on your obervational position.

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Re: Proposed polarity-reversal experiment

Post by Adam Szendrey » Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:07 am

What i meant was that there are at least two things againts linking the fusor runaways and CF runaways.

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