Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

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Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Joe Gayo » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:51 am

Rule 2a requires a picture of the inside of the device, but my chamber doesn’t have provisions for a viewport. Will the forum accept a claim if all of the other information is provided in sufficient detail?

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Richard Hull » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:12 pm

Yes, if all the other information is correct. Good photos of the entire setup will suffice.
Along with the other requirement data. The most important is an image of your neutron detection scheme and instrumentation. We, normally, would like to see your effort develop over a period of time.

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Joe Gayo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:19 pm

I'm fairly certain my device is producing neutrons, but I'm waiting for a bubble dosimeter to confirm.

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Richard Hull » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:18 pm

Can you show us some photos of your entire setup now?

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Joe Gayo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:23 pm

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Cristiano_Machado » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:58 pm

Hello Joe,

Very nice setup. Did you already tested it with deuterium?

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Joe Gayo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:44 am

Yes. I detect neutrons at a supply voltage greater than -15kV (capable of -50kV). In addition, my Geiger counter seems to indicate I can activate silver to 2-3x background.

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Dennis P Brown » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:40 am

I second that point, that is a very well done setup.

I assume you have a neutron detector (the image of the plastic box with leads.) If so, data counts vs time with and without the moderator. Its a good idea to do at least one run without deuterium to get a noise baseline with the plasma (at normal voltage and using air as the active media.) For the deuterium runs provide system parameters: detector distance from center, voltage, current and system pressure. Do a number of runs - 10 to 12 total (5 or 6 with mod/5 or 6 without.)

Also, you can (since you have Ag foil) provide/collect Ag activation data; that can be manual - i.e. counts from the GM detector and plot rate vs. time of the decrease from the activated Ag. Again, do a number of runs (4 - 8 total), provide deuterium pressure, system current and exact voltage. That is, activated the Ag for 2-4 runs with your moderator in place. Then provide Ag counts data without moderator (again, 2-4 runs.) Provide duration times the Ag was activated for as well. Also, include your rooms normal background count without the fusor running. Provide Ag foil distance from chamber center.

Publish either just the neutron detector results and/or the activated Ag here and I think those results should be enough. People here can ask questions and you can answer them.

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Richard Hull » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:00 am

I think he is waiting for a bubble detector (proof positive)

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Re: Rules for Claiming Fusion Clarification

Post by Rich Feldman » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:05 am

The check list used to include a picture of the maker with the fusor.
I guess that rule was dropped some time around 2016. Anybody remember why?
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